So the new raspberry pi came out,should and orange pi micro come out?

milan285

So the new raspberry pi is here : http://www.iflscience.com/techno ... aller-credit-card-0
Steven,what is your excuse for not thinking of this??
Anyway we should ask steven if its possable to make an orange pi that is even cheaper?
I am pretty sure that will make this website and forum grow on fast as duck.

bronco

You know that you can pre-order the $9 SBC (based on Allwinner's R8) on 'cyber monday' for just $8? And that the next $15 thing is just around the corner (based on Allwinner's new R18)?

Slow, boring... and cheap of course!



Why not speed and quality as goal?

milan285

why not make size and price the goal here.
i think it would work out

bronco

milan285 replied at 2015-11-29 00:11
why not make size and price the goal here.

Because it doesn't work. Hardware doesn't matter, software does.

The RPi is the one big exception: There a real user community exists and software evolved so it's able to use the most important/powerful parts any ARM SoC provides: GPU and VPU (CPU is nearly irrelevant). And this is due to relying on the very same SoC with just slight modifications for years now. The RPi's heart (SoC) is focussed on SBC useage whereas all the Allwinner SoCs are focussed on cheap tablets (not any more -- they consider this market being dead) or other Android stuff like OTT boxes, 'smart home', 'IoT', $insert-your-favourite-buzzword-here.

I can use an old boring RPi from 2012, adjust its CPU clockspeed down to the minimum (200 MHz) and let this beast both play HD video as well as encode h.264 encoded HD video from its camera module. Since I'm able to use VPU/GPU there (ARM CPU cores in consumer SoCs are always too slow no matter how you might overclock them or not). And this is what makes the difference: the software (to be able to use the more interesting hardware parts inside a SoC).

I would suspect the people who do the real work (linux-sunxi community) get bored rather sooner than later by Allwinner every few months throwing out the next bunch of cheap SoCs that are incompatible to existing ones, requiring huge amounts of new work and providing: nothing interesting (only weird combinations that target weird markets: eg. slow quad and octa core CPUs combined with ultra-slow GPUs -- but that's obviously what these markets demand: more CPU cores even if they're completely irrelevant).

By always demanding the most cheap hardware possible you end up with what you deserve: with either Android toys (horrible software/SDK made by Allwinner) or paperweights (horrible software/SDK made by Allwinner with purged Android bloatware, somewhat rehashed by 'vendor' and mostly fixed by the community to give the impression Linux has to feel like crap)

BTW: Regarding the software situation this is somewhat unique: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/linux-sunxi/Ze_UhiO00t8

The very same guys that will tell everyone through kickstarter that their hardware will run flawlessly with Linux (not true as usual until the community jumps in) at least seem to care a little bit: they ask the community prior to starting their kickstarter campaign. Let's see how things evolve

milan285

Hmmmmmm
I would love to order one of those if i knew it is only ganna cost me 8$
Im from Serbia and i don't know the price of shipping
if it is to ber like 3$  shipping i would love to buy one of those http://getchip.com/
also if shipping for pine was free i would buy one

Aldo there could be an orange pi similar to chip or the Zero
it wouldn't require much software,and it would be cheap,
id be the first to buy like 5 of those and make a decent pc.
it would be great for projects and the orange py community would get more people

also i get this in my mind


it would be great if it said "for the Orange pi Micro"

GungSukma

Steven (http://www.orangepi.org/): "Orange Pi One with H3 is coming soon. All in one. The unit price is lower than $10."

http://www.cnx-software.com/2015 ... ssor/#ixzz3swWzftdn

loboris

bronco replied at 2015-11-28 18:56
Because it doesn't work. Hardware doesn't matter, software does.

The RPi is the one big exception: ...

There are many uses for small SBC where hardware and size does matter.
What I need at the moment is small in size (1/3 OPI-PC), 1GB RAM, 500~1000MHz board, with 2~3 USB ports & expansion port, without hdmi/media ports, ~10 US$ price.
For what I'm using that kind of boards, I can make my own software.

milan285

if you find somewhere to buy that kind of board,send me a link
because only god can make that
i would buy the Chip but the shipping will be expencive as fuck

Loboris take a look at this http://getchip.com/

milan285

So i just payd for Chip,only only bought the basic board for 9$+6$ shipping -1 discount
so its 14$ for me,whitch is not much
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS
When will it arive,?because after my purchase i noticed this
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whitch kind of grinds my gears.
Will it support my orange pi cable i bought from steve?
and the final question
why am i posting this on orange pi forum?

GungSukma

What I need is a computer with normal size HDMI, and normal size and normal number USBs.

To use Raspberry Pi Zero, almost everyone will add:
- USB powered hub
- wifi dongle
- mini HDMI to normal HDMI
- USB to micro USB
More cost just for cables/adaptors than the computer itself.