DEMAND Xunglong to provide NOW Orange Pi2 (H5 based) boards to main developers

openrapp · Published in 2016-5-17 02:37:41

Edited by openrapp at 2016-11-5 06:28

OK, we understand: the business plan of Xunlong is to not provide software nor support, just hardware. We are not happy with that, but it works.
The community are doing an amazing work on it (I thinking in armbian and loboris and many, many more ─Thank you very much for that─)
But if the rumors are true, and there are an upcoming Orange Pi 2 (64 bits H5 based) board, the main developers need demo boards ASAP, NOW.
This is the least Xunglong can do for maintaining its business.

Please provide H5 demo boards for the main kernel developers BEFORE the official announcement!

openrapp · Published in 2016-5-17 05:02:44

Nice, Remix OS is closed source and an interesting approach to replace Windows desktop by a closed Android fork. Ubuntu and Google failed to beat Microsoft on the desktop market, so...

But Orange Pi is intended for the open source community. "It’s an open-source single-board computer"
We need open source, Linux and Android. And Xunlong must help, at least, providing to the leader developers as many tools as they can, ASAP, BEFORE the public release of their products.

Please demand this, it's our right as customers and users, considering the official distros are bad maintained and the manufacturer direct support is nonexistent.

gldndragon77 · Published in 2016-10-3 15:47:56

openrapp replied at 2016-5-17 05:02
Nice, Remix OS is closed source and an interesting approach to replace Windows desktop by a closed A ...

No offense, but I think you need tore-consider the meaning behind the words you are using.  Words like "demand" and "MUST" are incredibly presumptious and reeks of entitlement and implies obligation that simply does NOT exist.
You would do better to say "It would serve the COMMUNITY best if..." Perhaps?  Or "Industry practices would suggest increased acceptance and improved implementation if..."

Otherwise, all the manufacture must do is whatever the heck it decides it's going to spend its resources doing.  All the community can do is either support the manufacturer in that effort or NOT.

openrapp · Published in 2016-10-5 09:21:35

No offense taken.

I used this words as a customer. And, no offense, I think is our right as customers to demand good quality software, because We pay for a complete solution. So, yes, I think that there is an obligation from the manufacturer. Otherwise, is better if they mention on the marketing that these boards don't have software support from the manufacturer and you are on your own. The official software is just unusable, if you tried it, you just know that.

Orange Pi is a great product (not perfect but a good cost /benefit solution) but is incomplete without proper quality software.

And if they are not interested in software development, it's ok, but at least some help to the developers of the community is indispensable.

Anyway, this is an old post, and now I know that Xunlong is working with the Armbian devs.

As a user, I thank them for that and I hope they continue with this collaboration, just as a smart business practice.
(A lot cheaper way to maintain the software and concentrate resources on hardware development.)

jerome187 · Published in 2016-12-25 09:26:12

wow... I kinda feel dumb, seeing as how I have a h5 board now and I cant do a damn thing with it.. I am a software developer, but I have not done anything in the realm of kernel development.. I wouldn't even know where to start. Hmm.. well I guess I could try.. or at least ask here where I should/could start. I know c and c++ well enough, I've compiled kernels before, years ago, but have not cross compiled, but I think that is just a matter of setting some flags / arguments in gcc.

If anyone would care to at least point me in the right direction, I am ready and willing to try and do something productive

Christos · Published in 2016-12-25 15:27:03

Review the linux-sunxi community pages
-> http://linux-sunxi.org/Main_Page

There is an IRC for those who want to be involved
-> http://linux-sunxi.org/IRC
start by looking at the irc backlog to get an idea
-> https://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-sunxi/2016-12-25
and participate when you feel ready and got some questions
-> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=linux-sunxi

openrapp · Published in 2016-12-28 15:22:44

jerome187 replied at 2016-12-25 09:26
wow... I kinda feel dumb, seeing as how I have a h5 board now and I cant do a damn thing with it.. I ...

Also, Join to the Armbian community:
https://forum.armbian.com/index.php/forum/4-development/